Showing posts with label apologetics. Show all posts
Showing posts with label apologetics. Show all posts

Thursday, June 13, 2013

Will My Baby Feel Pain? Get the Facts.

I will never forget hearing Abby Johnson (former Planned Parenthood director turned pro-life advocate) talking about the most common thing she heard women say on their way to the abortion room. Sometimes (but not always) confused and on sedative drugs they muttered, "Will my baby feel pain?"

These women aren't asking about their fetus or their mass of cells. They are referring to a baby. They also care about the well-being of their baby.

Of course, clinic workers were quick to dismiss the question by saying there was no baby to feel pain, more recent research is showing something different:

Expert Tells Congress Unborn Babies Can Feel Pain Starting at 8 Weeks

"Maureen Condic, Ph.D. is an Associate Professor of Neurobiology and Anatomy at the University of Utah and obtained her Ph.D. from University of California, Berkeley. She is a widely published scientist whose works have appeared in a wide variety of peer-reviewed journals."

A summary of her testimony-
  1. The overall organization of the nervous system is established by four weeks
  2. The neural circuitry responsible for the most primitive response to pain, the spinal reflex, is in place by 8 weeks of development,
  3. To experience pain, a noxious stimulus must be detected. The neural structures necessary to detect noxious stimuli are in place by 8-10 weeks of human development.
 Dr Condic's Full Testimony 

Dr. Condic presented new evidence that had not been considered yet. The older standard of when a baby was able to feel pain was always set at 20 weeks.

While no neurologist questions that a pre-born infant can feel pain at 20 weeks, lawmakers are still trying to get a ban on abortions after 20 weeks, and their efforts are encountering great opposition. The oddest part of it is that after 20 weeks, most people don't realize how barbaric the procedures are that are used. Just as in earlier abortions that dismember the unborn child, after twenty weeks, limbs are twisted off one by one before the skull is crushed- on a conscious baby with no anesthetic.

So, people know a baby will feel pain and be horribly tortured and they still want that to be a legal "right" for a mother to have? What are people thinking? Articles I have read from pro-choice advocates assert that very few abortions are done at 20 weeks and that laws like this are just stepping-stones to ending abortion.

In other words, it is more important to protect a woman's "right" to end the life of a human being growing inside her than it is to save even one infant from a torturous death by dismemberment.

If the most common question a woman asks before having an abortion is, "Will my baby feel pain," perhaps one of the most important conversations we need to be having with her is about how, "Yes, your baby will feel pain."

Doctors on Fetal Pain.com

Article Appendix-
Facts and Statistics

Prevalence

As for how often abortions after 20 weeks are happening? Check the Guttmacher Institute. They haven't even been keeping track of it since 2006. (See their most recent 2011 summary sheet with their pie graph of their last (2006) research done  http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_induced_abortion.html ). The last time the CDC did any research was 2009. http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss6108a1.htm?s_cid=ss6108a1_w .
Both are showing the rate at between 1%-2% of total abortions.

So what's going on? Why four years with no research done at all? No one wants to report on this, that's what's going on.

But, go state by state and you can see for yourself-
Example- five years ago- (again- nothing current is available- Nobody wants to look at this.)

Oregon- 4.4% after 18 weeks (1.71% 21 wks + )

(More than 183 potentially viable, definitely pain-capable infants dismembered limb from limb)

Those at 20 weeks not counted above- total: 18 weeks + is 475
 
http://www.abort73.com/abortion_facts/states/oregon/

Compare to-
New York- 2.6% 18-20 weeks; 2.3% 21 + weeks
(total- 5879 total infants)

http://www.abort73.com/abortion_facts/states/new_york/

Oh, it's happening a lot. There are many, many Gosnells out there. They have to be, with statistics like this. What else do the doctors do when the baby is accidentally born alive ? (which happens often after 20 weeks.)

Abortion hurts. Let them know.
 
Viability-
What percent can live outside the womb?

The scientific definition of viability is whether 50% or more can survive. Therefore, 25 weeks is most often given as the time an infant is viable. The truth is that infants survive much younger than that, just at a lower percentage.

Although no infants have survived at 20 weeks, at 21 weeks several anecdotal cases have survived and at 22 weeks, the rate of survival ranges from 10-35%.

Length of Pregnancy Likelihood of Survival (average)
23 weeks 17%
24 weeks 39%
25 weeks 50%
26 weeks 80%
27 weeks 90%
28-31 weeks 90-95%
32-33 weeks 95%
34+ weeks Almost as likely as a full-term baby

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetal_viability


Way before 20 weeks, babies hurt. New expert testimony shows babies hurt as early as 8 weeks.


 

 

Thursday, May 30, 2013

The Pro-Life Position is Not About Politics or Religion

Let's bash some stereotypes!
Stereotypes tend to stop people from thinking for themselves. When a pro-life person is portrayed in a certain stereotyped way (such as only right wing, conservative Christian) people loyal to other religions and political parties often think to themselves, "I don't want to be like THOSE people!" From that point forward, most people don't consider the idea of really looking into the issue for themselves. Some make their entire decision about whether to be pro-life or pro-choice based on how they perceive their identity in relation to a religion or political party. This is very sad.

The best case for diversity in the pro-life movement can be seen by examining the millennial generation. They are the most ethnically diverse generation we have ever seen in America. Most millenials are not religious, and 1/4 are not affiliated with any religion;" 45% identify with "independent" instead of as democrats or republicans and yet the a majority of millennials believe abortion is morally wrong and 65 percent of Millenials feel that "pro-life" describes them somewhat or very well.

http://publicreligion.org/research/2012/04/millennial-values-survey-2012/
http://sojo.net/blogs/2011/06/21/are-millennials-conflicted-about-morality

So, in the interests of presenting a more realistic image of the pro-life movement,  I've put together an on-line "resource list" for and about pro-life in all faiths. This list can be helpful to share with friends of all faiths or friends without faith. 

Consider "friending" the FB pages (just click the FB links below and click "like.")

These are awesome pages to refer people to when they seem to have bought in to the pro-choice stereotype that all pro-lifers are Christian or all pro-lifers are "right wing." The pro-life position has nothing to do with politics or religion.

All Faiths United for Life
FB-https://www.facebook.com/pages/All-Faiths-United-for-Life

Secular Pro-Life
Thriving on-line community that produces videos with some very good non-religious arguments against abortion.
FB- https://www.facebook.com/secularprolife
http://secularprolife.org/
http://blog.secularprolife.org/

Pro-Life Pagans
FB- https://www.facebook.com/ProLifePagans
http://www.prolifepagans.org/

Muslims for Life
FB- https://www.facebook.com/ProLifeMuslims
http://www.spuc.org.uk/about/muslim-division/why
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSX_zv7uKmM

Hindus, Buddhists and Sikhs Against Abortion
FB- https://www.facebook.com/ProLifeHindus
http://www.fnsa.org/fall98/murti.html
http://www.angelfire.com/mo/baha/buddhism.html

Jews for Life
FB-https://www.facebook.com/JewsForLife
http://jewishprolifefoundation.org/Jewish_Pro-Life_Foundation/Welcome.html

Political-
ONE THIRD of the Democratic Party is Pro-life.
 http://www.democratsforlife.org/

Libertarians for Life-
http://www.l4l.org/




Thursday, May 23, 2013

Crash Course in Pro-Life Apologetics

Why are you pro-life? 

What would you say if someone asked you that? Have you ever had to defend your position in conversation? Were you afraid to offend someone with your point of view? Were you afraid your reasons were just not good enough to persuade anyone? Take a look at these very good websites and brush up on your apologetics skills!

At the pro-life conference this year, I attended a really good session on pro-life apologetics. The basic gist of how to be a good apologist is this: pro-choice people want to talk about anything and everything except for abortion itself. They want to talk about things like "back alley abortions,"  saving the life of a mother (which makes up under 1% of all abortions,) problems of poverty in our society, how other people overlook problems of poverty, a woman's choice, a woman's body and on and on.

Pro-choice people do NOT want to talk about the child itself being killed. They will spin the conversation every which-way they can to avoid this painful reality. That is why your main points need to be about things like the the humanity of the child in the womb, the uniqueness of human life, the child's ability to feel pain and the ethical issue of ending an innocent human life.

Here are some helpful websites to review:

(1) This well presented website offers succinct and logical "talking points" for every situation. For example, fact #12 details how, before Roe v Wade, only 10% of women had "back alley" abortions. The argument that abortion ban would increase death from "back alley" abortion ignores that there is no evidence that abortion is any less dangerous today but more importantly, it leaves out the issue of the ethics of taking a human life completely. Review this page. It's filled with clear logic to counter common arguments.


(2) What about when people want to talk about how young mothers will "ruin their lives" if they give birth? That's a hard position to argue without knowing the statistics of how abortion creates a greater number of emotional, physical and societal problems than giving birth at a young age. You need to know that suicide risk is 6 times higher with teens that have abortions and that they are twice as likely than their peers to use drugs.


Review these sites and you will feel more secure when faced with pro-choice arguments, but most importantly, always steer the conversation to the undeniable fact that abortion is taking an innocent human life- no ifs, ands or buts.